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Serial Number 1333
Subject Using Darwin Interface
Area wish
Queue grass
Requestors ferret_bard@mac.com
Owner none
Status resolved
Last User Contact Fri Oct 4 18:35:16 2002 (6 yr ago)
Current Priority 30
Final Priority 70
Due No date assigned
Last Action Sun Apr 27 15:01:19 2003 (5 yr ago)
Created Fri Oct 4 01:19:10 2002 (6 yr ago)

Transaction History Ticket 1333


Fri, Oct 4 2002 01:19:10    Request created by guest  
Subject: Using Darwin Interface

Platform: other
grass obtained from: Other (CDROM etc)
grass binary for platform: Downloaded precompiled Binaries
GRASS Version: 5.0pre4

I am learning to use GRASS on a G3 PowerBook running OS X 10.2,  also known as
Jaguar.  I have been using Neteler and Mitasova's book to help in this process.
First, some of their instructions are for people with a three button mouse. 
My computer only has one button.  Are there key combinations to get arround this.
Second, can I do the file management (move files, make directories (folders),
delete files, etc.) in the OS X  environment with out creating major problems
for both environments?

Thank you for any help you can offer.

Kurt D. Springs
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Request Tracker wrote:

> I am learning to use GRASS on a G3 PowerBook running OS X 10.2, also
> known as Jaguar. I have been using Neteler and Mitasova's book to help
> in this process. First, some of their instructions are for people with
> a three button mouse. My computer only has one button. Are there key
> combinations to get arround this.

GRASS itself doesn't provide any such emulation. Check the
documentation for the X server in case it provides its own emulation;
the assumption of a three-button mouse is sufficiently entrenched that
failure to provide an emulation is likely to be a serious problem (for
X software generally, not just GRASS).

> Second, can I do the file management
> (move files, make directories (folders), delete files, etc.) in the OS
> X environment with out creating major problems for both environments?

You should be able to manage *files* however you wish. However, GRASS
maps aren't files, and must be managed using the tools provided (e.g. 
g.list, g.remove, g.rename, g.copy, or the equivalent tcltkgrass menu
options).

-- 
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements@virgin.net>


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On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 08:24 PM, Glynn Clements wrote:

> Request Tracker wrote:
>
>> ... First, some of their instructions are for people with
>> a three button mouse. My computer only has one button. Are there key
>> combinations to get arround this.
>
> GRASS itself doesn't provide any such emulation. Check the
> documentation for the X server in case it provides its own emulation;
> the assumption of a three-button mouse is sufficiently entrenched that
> failure to provide an emulation is likely to be a serious problem (for
> X software generally, not just GRASS).

Indeed, and just so the pointer to the answer gets in to the archives,  
the
solution for the XDarwin X server you are presumably using can be found  
at
http://sourceforge.net/docman/ 
display_doc.php?docid=5853&group_id=18034#fakebuttons

(above should be all on one line)

Note that I THINK the text in the above is a bit out of date, in that it
says the keys used to simulate the other buttons can not be changed,
whereas in my Preferences menu for XDarwin there is a place to change
them - however, I have a multi-button mouse myself so am not sure.

Scott Mitchell


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From Kurt Springs <ferret_bard@mac.com>
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Thank you for your assistance.  I looked in OroborOSX, and found the the
Xdarwin preferences to emulate a three button mouse.

Again thank you for your advice.

Sl=E1inte (<=3D Irish for "cheers")

Kurt D. Springs

on 10/4/02 5:35 PM, Scott W Mitchell via RT at grass-bugs@intevation.de
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> this bug's URL: http://intevation.de/rt/webrt?serial_num=3D1333
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> On Thursday, October 3, 2002, at 08:24 PM, Glynn Clements wrote:
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>> Request Tracker wrote:
>>=20
>>> ... First, some of their instructions are for people with
>>> a three button mouse. My computer only has one button. Are there key
>>> combinations to get arround this.
>>=20
>> GRASS itself doesn't provide any such emulation. Check the
>> documentation for the X server in case it provides its own emulation;
>> the assumption of a three-button mouse is sufficiently entrenched that
>> failure to provide an emulation is likely to be a serious problem (for
>> X software generally, not just GRASS).
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> Indeed, and just so the pointer to the answer gets in to the archives,
> the
> solution for the XDarwin X server you are presumably using can be found
> at
> http://sourceforge.net/docman/
> display_doc.php?docid=3D5853&group_id=3D18034#fakebuttons
>=20
> (above should be all on one line)
>=20
> Note that I THINK the text in the above is a bit out of date, in that it
> says the keys used to simulate the other buttons can not be changed,
> whereas in my Preferences menu for XDarwin there is a place to change
> them - however, I have a multi-button mouse myself so am not sure.
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> Scott Mitchell
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Subject Re: [bug #1333] (grass) Using Darwin Interface
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Dear Glynn,

Thank you for your help.  I looked through the menu in OroborOSX and found
the preferences for XDarwin. They indeed have emulations for the three
button mouse.

On the managing of GRASS maps, I was afraid that would be the answer.   But
thank you for confirming it.

Sl=E1inte (<=3D Irish for "cheers")

Kurt D. Springs
on 10/4/02 2:00 AM, Glynn Clements via RT at grass-bugs@intevation.de wrote=
:

>=20
> Request Tracker wrote:
>=20
>> I am learning to use GRASS on a G3 PowerBook running OS X 10.2, also
>> known as Jaguar. I have been using Neteler and Mitasova's book to help
>> in this process. First, some of their instructions are for people with
>> a three button mouse. My computer only has one button. Are there key
>> combinations to get arround this.
>=20
> GRASS itself doesn't provide any such emulation. Check the
> documentation for the X server in case it provides its own emulation;
> the assumption of a three-button mouse is sufficiently entrenched that
> failure to provide an emulation is likely to be a serious problem (for
> X software generally, not just GRASS).
>=20
>> Second, can I do the file management
>> (move files, make directories (folders), delete files, etc.) in the OS
>> X environment with out creating major problems for both environments?
>=20
> You should be able to manage *files* however you wish. However, GRASS
> maps aren't files, and must be managed using the tools provided (e.g.
> g.list, g.remove, g.rename, g.copy, or the equivalent tcltkgrass menu
> options).


Sun, Apr 27 2003 15:01:19    Status changed to resolved by smitchell  
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