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Serial Number 2733
Subject note v.convert in UPGRADING
Area none
Queue grass
Requestors jidanni@jidanni.org
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Status resolved
Last User Contact Tue Nov 30 04:11:08 2004 (4 yr ago)
Current Priority 30
Final Priority 70
Due No date assigned
Last Action Wed Dec 1 18:40:47 2004 (4 yr ago)
Created Mon Nov 29 00:29:49 2004 (4 yr ago)

Transaction History Ticket 2733


Mon, Nov 29 2004 00:29:49    Request created by jidanni@jidanni.org  
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Subject note v.convert in UPGRADING
From Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org>
Date Mon, 29 Nov 2004 07:26:36 +0800
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doc/vector/vector.html should say how to convert one's old vector file
to new vector files, and visa versa.

Indeed I was sure your vector commands were broken until one day I
used (Debian bullhorn.org) g.list and noticed "oldvect"!

There is no way returning users will know you changed the vector
format unless you tell the whole story in some UPGRADING file, like
spamassassin has.

Anyway, how do I convert my old 5.0 vector files to new ones?
Or maybe one just copies them over or something.

Wait, deep down in the 2002 Blazek conference paper do I finally
notice v.convert.  Just wanted to let you know the story.

P.S., $ v.convert help
     Description: Converts between GRASS vector versions.
Say which versions.  Indeed prepare for future versions...
Say how to convert backwards too.

P.S., mention all the new restrictions on vector file names there too!
Also mention how to convert most or all of ones files in one step, not
just one at a time. Especially as the names will probably need removal
of now illegal chars.


Mon, Nov 29 2004 10:18:35    Mail sent by blazek@itc.it  
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Maybe you want to get CVS access and fix that. I have more important
things on my TODO with higher priority.

Radim

Request Tracker wrote:
> this bug's URL: http://intevation.de/rt/webrt?serial_num=2733
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> doc/vector/vector.html should say how to convert one's old vector file
> to new vector files, and visa versa.
> 
> Indeed I was sure your vector commands were broken until one day I
> used (Debian bullhorn.org) g.list and noticed "oldvect"!
> 
> There is no way returning users will know you changed the vector
> format unless you tell the whole story in some UPGRADING file, like
> spamassassin has.
> 
> Anyway, how do I convert my old 5.0 vector files to new ones?
> Or maybe one just copies them over or something.
> 
> Wait, deep down in the 2002 Blazek conference paper do I finally
> notice v.convert.  Just wanted to let you know the story.
> 
> P.S., $ v.convert help
>      Description: Converts between GRASS vector versions.
> Say which versions.  Indeed prepare for future versions...
> Say how to convert backwards too.
> 
> P.S., mention all the new restrictions on vector file names there too!
> Also mention how to convert most or all of ones files in one step, not
> just one at a time. Especially as the names will probably need removal
> of now illegal chars.
> 
> 
> --- Headers Follow ---
> 
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> Subject: note v.convert in UPGRADING
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Mon, Nov 29 2004 11:35:34    Mail sent by neteler@itc.it  
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From Markus Neteler <neteler@itc.it>
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Subject Re: [GRASS5] [bug #2733] (grass) note v.convert in UPGRADING
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 Request Tracker wrote:
> >this bug's URL: http://intevation.de/rt/webrt?serial_num=2733
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >doc/vector/vector.html should say how to convert one's old vector file
> >to new vector files, and visa versa.

This is a document dedicated to GRASS programming, not GRASS usage.

> >Indeed I was sure your vector commands were broken until one day I
> >used (Debian bullhorn.org) g.list and noticed "oldvect"!
> >
> >There is no way returning users will know you changed the vector
> >format unless you tell the whole story in some UPGRADING file, like
> >spamassassin has.

Please write it for us.


> >Anyway, how do I convert my old 5.0 vector files to new ones?
> >Or maybe one just copies them over or something.

http://grass.itc.it/grass57/manuals/html57_user/v.convert.html

I have added recenctly a new script:

 v.convert.all [-r]

which does the job for all maps in the current mapset
(feel free to improve this script).

> >Wait, deep down in the 2002 Blazek conference paper do I finally
> >notice v.convert.  Just wanted to let you know the story.
> >
> >P.S., $ v.convert help
> >     Description: Converts between GRASS vector versions.
> >Say which versions.  Indeed prepare for future versions...

We cannot mention the zillion GRASS versions by name.

> >Say how to convert backwards too.

Suggestion:
Read the manual *completely*, not just the first two lines:
 "v.convert converts GRASS 5.0/5.3/5.4 vectors into 5.7 vectors."
 "If you need to convert back from 5.7 into the 5.0/5.3 vector format ..."

> >P.S., mention all the new restrictions on vector file names there too!

Done. The new man page of v.convert.all explains that this script
automatically changes dots to underlines (can be extended).

> >Also mention how to convert most or all of ones files in one step, not
> >just one at a time. Especially as the names will probably need removal
> >of now illegal chars.

Done in CVS. 

Markus

PS: Consider to send text pieces which we can insert by copy-paste.


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From Dan Jacobson <jidanni@jidanni.org>
Date Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:14:58 +0800
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H> Read the manual *completely*, not just the first two lines.
$ apt-cache policy grass5.7
  Installed: 5.7.0-4
        500 http://bullhorn.org unstable/main Packages
is all I was able to install. Glad to hear the page has grown.

P.S., one day (grass 8.1?)  you will need to add a from_version=
to_version=, with the defaults being 50 57.


Tue, Nov 30 2004 04:11:08    Mail sent by hamish_nospam@yahoo.com  
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> P.S., $ v.convert help
>      Description: Converts between GRASS vector versions.
> Say which versions.  Indeed prepare for future versions...

Already done, this was changed to:

"Description:
 Imports older versions of GRASS vectors."

in CVS some time ago.


> Say how to convert backwards too.

already in help page ('v.out.ascii -o') and in G57 tutorial.



regards,
Hamish


Wed, Dec 1 2004 18:40:47    Status changed to resolved by mneteler  
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