Pledge page
Posted by Barry Rowlingson on April 27, 2013
Had a brainwave that we could use SurveyMonkey for collecting pledges. However, without a premium account, its hard to get your survey results out of the site.
Other options include some kind of WordPress survey plugin, or another online survey site. Pervidet looks quite good, lets you download results for free. I set up a bit of a demo, have a go, pledge something:
http://www.pervidet.com/survey/start/geospacedman/91/
i think the plan would be to only run this live during the conference, or announce it on the Monday maybe, then I'd have some job to download and let us do some filtering to remove anything abusive/libellous to other GIS companies before we publish it, or just publish summary stats, or whatever.
If anyone has experience of doing this via WP plugins... let us know!
Other options include some kind of WordPress survey plugin, or another online survey site. Pervidet looks quite good, lets you download results for free. I set up a bit of a demo, have a go, pledge something:
http://www.pervidet.com/survey/start/geospacedman/91/
i think the plan would be to only run this live during the conference, or announce it on the Monday maybe, then I'd have some job to download and let us do some filtering to remove anything abusive/libellous to other GIS companies before we publish it, or just publish summary stats, or whatever.
If anyone has experience of doing this via WP plugins... let us know!
Comments
Steven Feldman on April 27, 2013:
AGI has a survey monkey account that we can use if there is a need but this is so simple that the pervidet would seem to be enough.
The only alternative that I can think of is simply setting up a page on the blog and opening up comments allowing people to post their pledges as comments. Benefit is simplicity and free format, downside is much more difficult to extract in a way that sums stats and enables us to track going forward.
My vote would be to pervidet it
Barry Rowlingson on April 28, 2013:
Rollo Home on April 30, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on May 17, 2013:
That list of pledges is not the finished article which will be more interesting - I plan to have pledges fade in and out, move around etc etc.
However the make-a-pledge page is working as intended:
http://2013.foss4g.org/pledge5254/pledge.html
so please add some pledges. They go into a google forms spreadsheet for vetting and wont appear on the site until someone sticks 'y' in the right column. I plan to run an hourly job to check for new submissions and notify. Another regular job will get the latest spreadsheet from google docs and update the index page. All the scripts to do this have been written, I just need to hook them in as regular tasks.
I'd like to go live on this at maybe the 1 or 2 month point before the conference date.
Steven Feldman on May 18, 2013:
Steven Feldman on May 18, 2013:
I get why we have the review stage but will that be a burden during the conference?
Barry Rowlingson on May 18, 2013:
WIth the pledges going into a google docs spreadsheet it is at least a burden we can share amongst a group of trusted and capable people. People may submit really frivolous, libellous, or completely non-geo related pledges and we need to filter those out. Short of having some kind of email authentication so that submitters take some responsibility I can't think of another way. And that's a tricky thing.
Editors will only need to put 'y' in the 'Publish' column of new entries for publication. Everything else will be automatic.
Steven Feldman on May 18, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on May 18, 2013:
Steven Feldman on May 18, 2013:
Nice one
:)
Barry Rowlingson on July 7, 2013:
So: no more google forms mucking about; a simple captcha on the entry form ("what is A+B?"); a 'like' system for people to vote up so we can have a hall of fame or award or somesuch; email notification of new pledges (so I can accept them).
My current idea with the main page is to show a small number of pledges (5,10,15?) and a refresh gets another set of random pledges to keep the interest up. There's some IP and cookie-based protection against multiple likes but we're not electing a government here.
Unfortunately I have to go on holiday next weekend so I can't wrap it up and deploy it for a bit, I'm aiming for launch at T-1 month or T-50 days.
Suggestions for the pledge system welcome.
Steven Feldman on July 8, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on July 9, 2013:
http://2013.foss4g.org/conf/pledge/
currently a grand total of one pledge on it, so reloading doesn't do much. It is set to show ten pledge cards on a page and then show another random sample on reload.
Everyone on the ctte should add at least one pledge - make it funny, serious, silly, honest, forthright, whatever.
I get an email for every submission so I can then go and accept/reject/edit. If anyone else wants on that notification email list I can add them.
That is now live and open - so don't share the URL for a while, let's just check it all works and put a few on there.
Click the hearts to 'like' pledges.
Enjoy!
Barry
Steven Feldman on July 10, 2013:
I pledged something but I can't see it on the page now, was it user error or is there a lag before pledges appear?
Tried a second pledge, same check sum appeared. Submitted and also not appeared
The liking is working
Barry Rowlingson on July 10, 2013:
Hmm yes they look acceptable... Added!
Steven Feldman on July 10, 2013:
This is going to be so so much fun :)
Barry Rowlingson on July 10, 2013:
Jo Cook on July 10, 2013:
Steven Feldman on July 10, 2013:
Last thought - would be to explain on the submission page why we want the email address e.g. to follow up on their pledge, to possibly win an award from the LOC etc
So that is my first pledge completed :)
Barry Rowlingson on July 19, 2013:
http://2013.foss4g.org/conf/pledge/
I'll add a 'make your pledge' link towards the top of the page, and modify the text a bit for release to emphasis that points make prizes.
Release plan is: Monday - email UK local chapter and tell them the URL - telling them that if they keep it to themselves they'll have time to rack up some points. Of course if someone leaks it on twitter well, never mind, lets see if OSGeo:UK can keep a secret (or who reads the public mail archives).
Week after that I'll email the OSGeo-discuss list and tweet about it and link it on the web site.
Steven Feldman on July 19, 2013:
Steven Feldman on July 19, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on July 19, 2013:
Rollo currently winning.
Barry Rowlingson on July 21, 2013:
I can't use anything newer than IE8 at home because I'm stuck with XP...
The IE Tab in Chrome fails differently, listing all the pledges in one column and not doing the floaty layout thing. I cant debug this because I can't get the developer tools for an IE Tab window....
Franz-Josef Behr on July 22, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on July 22, 2013:
I think I'll announce this on the UK list with a plea for a volunteer to fix the IE issues or otherwise help with web stuff!
Jo Cook on July 22, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on July 22, 2013:
Abi Page on July 22, 2013:
PS looks fine on IE 10 here in the office as per your image Barry
Rollo Home on July 22, 2013:
Abi Page on July 23, 2013:
Is there some online reference to the sizes from the company we are using - what is small / medium etc? Or is this just standard....
Jo Cook on July 23, 2013:
Rollo Home on July 23, 2013:
Abi Page on July 23, 2013:
Jo Cook on July 23, 2013:
Abi Page on July 23, 2013:
Mark Iliffe on July 23, 2013:
Rollo Home on July 24, 2013:
I'm digging deeper on this issue with Firelabel
Rollo Home on July 24, 2013:
The print size per screen set up cannot be changed, therefore the maximum print size is dictated by the smallest sized garment within your print run.
With regards to the design, if we print it to look like the visual proof it will only look this way onto the small garments. As the garment size increases the print size will remain the same resulting in the print appearing smaller and out of position on the larger garments.
The possible options are:
1) To use new screen set ups per size. This will guarantee the maximum print sizes available per size but will incur a set up cost of £22+vat per screen. (which I think would take us to about £4.80/shirt - based on 800).
2) To use separate screen set ups for the ladies and men's garments. With this option the print will need to be more centred than your original mock up and will appear smaller on the larger sized garments. This will be the more cost effective option.
Comments? Barry - anything you think we can do with the design to minimise this impact?
Barry Rowlingson on July 24, 2013:
Are we going beyond XL? Could we compromise and do one screen for S and M, and one for L and XL?
And who threadjacked the pledge-page thread? :)
Rollo Home on July 24, 2013:
I think that for the cost we should go for quality over cutting costs (we'd be saving £50 with your proposal - assuming we don't have women specific cuts as well. Is that a fair assumption to make? Jo?).
Jo Cook on July 25, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on July 25, 2013:
Jo, I guess the old fashion photographer's trick of using a clothes peg round the back to pinch in a t-shirt on a model gets a bit uncomfortable after a day. +1 for a medium woman's size, other shaped women can try the men's sizes. Will we have a fitting room?
Jo Cook on July 25, 2013:
How about a survey for people to choose t-shirt sizes? Would that work, or add to our administrative burden?
Rollo Home on July 25, 2013:
http://www.firelabel.co.uk/t-shirts/mens/crew-neck-t-shirts/61036-fruit-of-the-loom-value-t-shirt.html
There are no 'women' cut shirts in this order. If we added a single size (M?) then it would add £100. Currently it's working out at £4.20/shirt (ex VAT).Barry, please find attached the dimensions of the printing for this shirt. That with the print area spec I've posted above should give you an impression of the 'gap' at the edge of the shirt. Any thoughts? Firelabel seem to think it will work well.
I'd be inclined to add a women's cut shirt such as http://www.firelabel.co.uk/t-shirts/womens/crew-neck-t-shirts/61372-fruit-of-the-loom-lady-fit-value-t-shirt.html
How many?
Abi Page on July 25, 2013:
We have 30-ish registered just now so that should give us an idea. When is the order deadline for the shirts to get them in time?
Rollo Home on July 25, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on July 26, 2013:
Rollo Home on July 26, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on July 27, 2013:
What's the deal with colours? Do we get 3 colours for front and 3 (possibly different) colours for the back? I may have to make some changes, the style for the non-black t-shirts currently needs white, two greens and black at least. Working on it. (when I should be washing the car...)
Barry Rowlingson on July 27, 2013:
Rollo Home on July 29, 2013:
Rollo Home on July 29, 2013:
for each design in a 300dpi jpeg, pdf, psd or eps. With the original
artwork for each design excluding the t-shirt background. Graphics will then
use this artwork along with the mock up to produce your detailed visual proof
and prepare the designs for printing.
Barry Rowlingson on July 29, 2013:
Is our best bet to supply a vector PDF which they will scale?
Will do tonight.
Rollo Home on July 29, 2013:
SVG? Or vector PDF - or both.....or we supply some/anything and see what they say!
Barry Rowlingson on July 29, 2013:
Abi Page on July 31, 2013:
Thanks, Abi
Barry Rowlingson on July 31, 2013:
Rollo Home on July 31, 2013:
Apparently the PDF (front.pdf, back.pdf) are fine for the printing, however:
1. the front file is not opening properly in Illustrator(?)
2. the front has four colours in it. This has put our current cost per shirt to: £4.45 (865 shirts/exc VAT).
Barry Rowlingson on July 31, 2013:
Also, exported as PDF 1.4 to see if that improves illustrator compatibility...
@Abi, could BarryH deal with PDFs? Then I don't ave to worry about pixels and resolution? Can prob do tomorrow.
Abi Page on August 1, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on August 1, 2013:
Rollo Home on August 2, 2013:
Abi Page on August 2, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on August 2, 2013:
Wordpress, plugins, django... it might get spread a bit thin though.
Steven Feldman on August 2, 2013:
Do you think it will encourage delegates to buy the t-shirts or do you think they won't care where the money is gong and will just want the awesome limited edition t-shirt?
Barry Rowlingson on August 2, 2013:
Jo Cook on August 3, 2013:
Rollo Home on August 3, 2013:
Jo Cook on August 5, 2013:
Rollo Home on August 5, 2013:
It's beginning to feel like Switzerland around here with the continual return to the Community (which hardly seems to justify the effort in 'outreach' with a satisfactory response). Sorry....a jaded Monday morning.
Jo Cook on August 5, 2013:
Barry Rowlingson on August 5, 2013:
+1 MapAction, seems an obvious choice anyway.
Complications: I think you're supposed to contact charities before organising collections etc, and do we have to worry about GiftAid for UK tax payers and whatever equivalents in other countries?
Antony Scott on August 5, 2013:
If we get people to fill in a Gift Aid form, we can give to MA to sort out. I will organise this.
Barend Köbben on August 5, 2013:
Barend
Mark Iliffe on August 5, 2013:
Steven Feldman on August 5, 2013:
Is that done and dusted then?
We as FOSS4G committee can make the decision to make donations out of the conference surplus to the non geo open source projects that we have made use of and I would propose (and +1) a budget of up to £1000 for that.
Rollo Home on August 6, 2013: